r/mildlyinfuriating • u/[deleted] • 8d ago
Patient chewed through their IV tubing instead of waiting to have it unhooked or rolling the pump to the bathroom with them
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u/TSS997 8d ago
Do you work at a vet?
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u/bodhi1990 8d ago
No not a vet, but I wish I would have went that route after working with humans
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u/SnowResponsible7638 8d ago
I just read an article about the crazy high rate of suicide among veterinarians, so maybe your better off.
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u/apprentice-grower 8d ago
Nurses are right under vets for top suicides. Nurses usually aren’t spared from seeing children turned into meat crayons or worse either.
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u/Capt_Hawkeye_Pierce 8d ago
I work in an ER (security, not medical staff) and even I've seen some shit. And I've only been there for like a month.
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u/apprentice-grower 8d ago
I believe it. I have a friend who moved to Colorado to be a RN, her first week there, she had to treat (as much as possible)… a fella with a gunshot wound to the head. He didn’t make it. She saw brains in her first week. Brutal
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u/FuzzballLogic 8d ago
I fear you mean shit in both the literal AND figurative sense? Medical personnel probably gets used to it but I’d be throwing up multiple times during the job, methinks.
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u/mrducky80 8d ago
Got a story already from a friend who is just first year out of med school
Someone came in with a paper? towel over one side of their face with "No bone" written on it.
It was a fucking "dead dove, do not eat" moment but completely and utterly fubar.
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u/DeathMetalPants 8d ago
I work in IT and I've seen more dead bodies than you would think. Funeral homes, nursing homes, and hospitals. I've seen some shit.
My funniest memory was when I walked into a room of dead bodies at a funeral home. I said, "oh excuse me!" and closed the door. Like they fucking cared lol.
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u/Violexsound 8d ago
It doesn't cost a thing to be polite, ngl I'd probably do the same without thinking
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u/eggyal 8d ago
What's the reason for that? Emotional trauma / PTSD from dealing with sick animals, having to put them down etc?
Or because financially it's too stressful?
Or....?
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u/FriskyDingus1122 8d ago
I have a big long answer for this, but I'll try to put it in a nutshell:
Vets graduate with a shit ton of debt and make no money. If you thought human healthcare was bad, pet healthcare is worse. It's all corporate. So that's one huge factor; the other is that pet care is so expensive that most people can't afford the gold standard of care. So they either don't listen to us, or they're forced to decline care. So either way, we sometimes end up sending away pets that are still sick or suffering.
Also, people are really mean to their animals sometimes. And then they're really mean to us. All while making minimum wage, or sometimes a bit better.
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u/ArsenicArts 8d ago
All of this while adding that vet schools are INCREDIBLY competitive and that means that only highly driven people get in. People who are driven academically and called emotionally to the field.
Y'know, EXACTLY the kind of people who react very poorly to being sent out to bumfuck nowhere to put down treatable animals for people who don't listen and don't care, being overwhelmed with work while being paid almost nothing compared to the massive student loan debt, and being unable to keep decent assistants and office staff because that's a shit job (pay-wise and literally.)
Veterinary medicine is a modern tragedy. It's heartbreaking to watch.
Be kind to your vets, folks.
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u/OpusAtrumET 8d ago
Also you end up killing a lot of animals. Suffering or not, I'm sure it eats away at you.
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u/Thisiswhoiam782 8d ago
I hate the ones more where the patient is suffering and in agony and they WON'T let us humanely euthanize. That's cruelty.
Humane euthanasia isn't cruel, it's a gift. It's a peaceful, dignified death. People think that's the part that bothers us, but it isnt. It's the people who refuse treatment and take a suffering animal home, or the people who refuse to stop and their pet literally suffers to death. It's getting screamed at and told we don't care about animals when the person neglected their pet for weeks or months and is now angry it's going to cost them money.
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u/OpusAtrumET 8d ago
Wow yeah I can totally understand that. People are the worst.
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u/Living_Bass5418 8d ago
I’ve heard it’s mostly from people who don’t want to actually help their animals. They’ll bring in sick dogs and then refuse treatment or they don’t want to put down a clearly suffering animal. It’s having the knowledge and ability to help but not being able to do so
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u/hellothuyou 8d ago
You’d still be working with the humans that bring their pets in and they ain’t happy about being there either. I don’t miss it for that.
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u/whitshmee 8d ago
as someone who does i was like “this happens all the time wdym” until i realized it was probably a human🤣
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u/baabaablacksheep1111 8d ago
It's easily avoided if you've put the cone of shame.
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u/bodhi1990 8d ago
It’s frowned upon to put those on humans
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u/carlos_damgerous 8d ago
Yeah well it’s frowned upon to chew through your fucking IV tube too, so you’d be even.
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u/Panthalassae 8d ago
They make nice flower ones nowadays. They'll never complain when dressed in a giant daisy.
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u/LostLi0n 8d ago
Someone had to shit badly, it seems, haha
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u/Equinsu-0cha 8d ago
You can easily roll the whole setup in with you. I took walks with it.
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u/L4rgo117 8d ago
I learned to walk with an IV pole, don't naturally swing my arms when I walk decades later. IVs are definitely portable
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u/Equinsu-0cha 8d ago
i had a couple iv bags and some monitoring stuff. never an issue. just hold it in the middle and walk.
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u/Cheap_Excitement3001 8d ago
Sure, but you gotta unplug it and untangle things. If you wake up in a sick/injured fuge and have to shit and people aren't coming fast enough, I get the whole less logical option. Maybe it's plugged in a place that's hard for them to manage given their state too.
Spent a lot of time in the hospital with my kid. It can be very frustrating when you need help or assistance and it takes nurses forever to get there. I get why, but sometimes it feels kinda ridiculous. Maybe add another nurse to the schedule.
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u/Solidknowledge 8d ago
It can be very frustrating when you need help or assistance and it takes nurses forever to get there.
I really hope your comment doesn't get buried. I spent a lot of time in the hospital with my elderly father as he was dying and became extremely agitated with the nursing staff for the same reason. We would ring for assistance time and time again and no one would come.
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u/AnarisBell 8d ago
I don't know a single nurse who wouldn't take a pay cut if it meant working at a place that actually staffed enough people so we could provide the standard of care we want to 🥺 it's not our fault; management sees that if they cut staffing down to the bare legal minimum, the nurses will still find a way to get "enough" done to prevent the worst incidents and it's more money in their pockets. Standards of care, safety, and staff and patient satisfaction don't matter as long as they aren't getting sued or shut down.
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u/flyingbugz 8d ago
So much this. Medical staff, especially anyone in acute care, has their compassion taken advantage of grossly by their employers.
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u/Cheap_Excitement3001 8d ago
Yup. Understaffed. Overworked.
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u/Ambitious_Wolf2539 8d ago
*always*. it truly is astounding how simple things like scheduled meds can take hours to get done.
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u/Koomaster 8d ago
Hospitals are wildly understaffed.
Actually here with my mom in the hospital and it’s laughable the response times for nurses. I called over an hour ago that her IV was messed up and beeping. I eventually figured it out for myself. 🤷🏽♂️
I’ve helped her go to the bathroom 3x since I’ve been here. She’s mobile but needs help getting out of the hospital bed. They just let her piss herself yesterday while I couldn’t be here.
So yeah, sorry to OP, but if you have to go to the bathroom, you gotta go and patients can’t wait a half hour to an hour for that. So I’m with the patients here, pull that shit out, chew it off, then let staff deal with it afterwards.
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u/MaritMonkey 8d ago
My mom is a retired nurse and made sure to ask for a "purewick" as soon as they told her I wasn't allowed to help her to the bathroom.
I'm not sure if this is a bandaid/kleenex situation where that brand name would be recognized everywhere (she was in the same hospital network she worked at), but "external catheter" is a thing and it was freaking awesome, relatively speaking.
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u/DecoyOne 8d ago
Is your patient a cat?
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u/a-Snake-in-the-Grass 8d ago
I'm actually impressed. I find their determination commendable, if a bit insane.
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u/nancythethot 8d ago
This patient has clearly fully prepared for a Saw situation and is eager to put their practiced skills to use.
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u/swissie67 8d ago
This is absolutely wild. I have never heard of that kind of behavior before. You sometimes believe you can't be surprised anymore.
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u/cartercharles 8d ago
It could be dementia. It's probably something sad more than bad
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u/Frogbone 8d ago
could be "left them immobilized and hooked up to a bunch of tubes until they're about to shit themselves" syndrome
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u/ObeseVegetable 8d ago
Or just waiting for 30+ minutes after they pressed the button and already had to go to the bathroom and they’re sick and tired and just want to go pee and “holy shit this tape won’t come off I guess I’ll bite it” instead of thinking about rolling the thing that might not be obvious could roll into a different room with them.
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u/Southside_john 8d ago
It’s more likely they are completely confused and have no idea where they are or why they’re there and didn’t come to the idea of biting an IV through any rational thought process
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u/puppsmcgee74 8d ago
For a brief while, my ex-father-in-law was married to this woman who was very cantankerous and a general pain in the ass. One evening she took herself to the ER to gain sympathy and attention from her adult children who were long over her shenanigans. Somehow I got wrangled into picking her up from the ER and she was highly disappointed upon seeing that it was me and not someone she could try to manipulate.
So, instead of waiting for the nurse to come remove her IV, she yanked it out of her arm herself and blood went flying everywhere. The nurse walked in about that time and was absolutely bewildered that someone would not only remove their own IV but would do so by angrily pulling it out of their own arm.
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u/slartyfartblaster999 8d ago
That really shouldn't surprise an ER nurse. That's coming up on a once a shift occurrence.
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u/BRAVOSNIPER1347 8d ago
I mean the amount of time ive spent waiting for the most absolutely basic in person hospital attention, i get it.
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u/Serupta 8d ago
You either ask to go to the toilet like they want you to, by pressing the call light that is constantly beeping in the ward/wards and pissing -everyone- off including the staff its designed to get the attention of. Or you get up to walk your own ass to the toilet un-assisted and get the ever loving fuck chewed out of you by someone. Bonus points if you're hefting an entire can of fucking oxygen because even on less then 50% lung capacity you're still stronger than the nurse sent to 'assist' you -.-'
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u/MacBetty 8d ago
bonus points if they want you to collect all your urine in the toilet hat but no one comes to empty it so it gets filled to overflowing
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u/ImWhy 8d ago
Once coughed up blood all over myself and my sheets in a private hospital following nasal/sinus surgery, nurse came and took my gown + bedding and said they'd be back, 2 and a half hours later I was still laying there in my underwear with no bedding, no gown, freezing cold and having had pressed me call button multiple times had just given up, eventually got the strength to reach for my phone and message my partner to call the hospital for me to ask wtf was going on. Still took another 30 minutes for someone to come bring me bedding + a gown.
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u/aljaafrehjamal 8d ago
Been to the ER several times (Type 1 diabetic) and there were many times I was seconds away from doing the same thing. Being a diabetic with saline running through me, I often of course need to pee constantly and they will leave you sitting in the room by yourself hooked up for HOURS without checking on you. Its torture.
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u/FizziePixie 8d ago
I admittedly removed my own in a similar circumstance once because I was told I was being discharged and then was left for hours alone with no way to alert anyone, even after yelling. Sometimes they put you in a position where you can’t even get up and roll it on your own with the IV in. But I’ve had an IV every couple of weeks for years and know how to remove them. I can’t imagine chewing through one. lol
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u/aljaafrehjamal 8d ago
I don’t understand how they can do shit like that. “The doctor will be back soon to discharge you” and literally takes 3 hours. It always happens like that. And the nurses are all standing around at the main desk just gossiping most of the time lol
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u/PauI_MuadDib 8d ago
I was in a car accident in highschool and brought to the ER. I was fine, no diagnostic imaging run, just a quick exam and then they said they're discharging me. +2 hours pass. I look around. Every other ER cubicle was empty, I was the only patient there. Staff was drinking coffee at their desks. Well, I told my dad I'm going, he said okay & went back to work and I got a ride home.
Later I get a frantic call from the hospital about me being a minor and not having the discharge papers signed lol I was like 15 so I was a little shit with no patience. No way was I waiting over 3 hours to sign a piece of paper. And they called at 8pm so who even knows when they noticed I was gone. I left at around 1pm.
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u/LaNague 8d ago
Idk about where you are, but i had to wait 2-3 hours once and the doctor simply just had someone dying from internal bleeding and had to try fix it. In my experience the doctors in the hospital usually care and dont just make you wait for no reason.
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u/Zestyclose_Quit7396 8d ago
Been there.
I have a heart issue, which requires drinking otherwise excessive amounts of fluids to manage.
Got admitted for a medication reaction, and was put in a temporary room while they administered an antidote and observed, but it had no bathroom.
... a few hours later I was sent home wrapped in a damp blanket.
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u/ramanw150 8d ago edited 8d ago
I was in the ed several months back. They forgot about me for several hours. Was in lots of pain and had to pee. So I got up screaming so I could pee in the pee bottle. Nurse came in and scolded me. I hit the button 10 or more times. Nobody came. However I consider it more then mildly infuriating.
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u/evange 8d ago
I'm guessing they needed the bathroom really bad but didn't know what they were supposed to do? Just because you know that they could roll the pump into the bathroom with them, doesn't mean they do.
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u/Little-Bit-Psycho 8d ago
Yeah it was probably plugged into the wall on charge and they didn’t know they could unplug it. I’ve been in this situation and I couldn’t unscrew the IV one-handed and ended up pissing myself after trying to get help for 4 hours. Now I know I can roll it with me or as a last resort pull it out, but it’s scary when you don’t know anything about the equipment and don’t want to mess with it.
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u/Prize-Comment-8282 8d ago
This is what happen to me. I was seconds away from either pulling the iv or just unplugging it
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u/GWOT-Geardo 8d ago
The hospital should hire more people to answer the nurse call button. Nobody likes sh**ing the bed. Patient care is abysmal nowadays. Hospitals are terribly understaffed. It always infuriates me to see a hospital that looks like an art museum built on a golf course that can't or won't hire enough staff. Everyone suffers.
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u/rexeditrex 8d ago
The unanswered question is how long were they hitting the call button until they got to this point?
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u/mister_electric 8d ago
I once waited SIX HOURS to be discharged, and I removed my own IV (did not chew through it tho lol). I was just waiting to sign paperwork and to be decoupled from the IV. This was pre-COVID. It was infuriating.
I blame hospital admins (not the nurses), and it really did feel like I was being help captive and paying thousands of dollars for the privilege.
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u/Yerawizzardarry 8d ago
How to spot the person who has actually spent time in a hospital.
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u/DigbyChickenZone 8d ago
This is my first thought as well, that they were desperate not malicious or stupid.
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u/Red_Dawn_2012 8d ago
I had to go to the hospital in a... not so rich country and I had to be put on an IV. They were coming back regularly to change it until... they just didn't. Eventually, my blood started to exit my body and get pushed up the tube. Call button presumably didn't work. I was too weak to get out of the bed. It was no bueno.
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u/Jesus_christ_savior I. HATE. SAUERKRAUT! 8d ago
No bueno is the best response you could give to this.
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u/Rain_Zeros 8d ago
My first thought, and I won't lie I've thought about ripping an IV out waiting for someone to show up. I don't blame this person even if chewing through it sounds stupid.
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u/AlterSack1973 8d ago
How long did he need to wait? Did he call for help, but Nobody came?
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u/DigbyChickenZone 8d ago
Also, how long does it take to bite through one of these? How long were they not being spoken to by the nurses?
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u/Caseyisweird 8d ago
My cousin did this 6 times the last time they had to lock him up and it wasn't, because he wanted to go to the bathroom, it's just because he thought it was poison, and then he proceeded to drink an entire saline bag like a fucking Gatorade because and I quote they weren't hydrating him fast enough. Hes better now but that just lives rent free in My head.
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u/UmChill 8d ago
I don’t know you, and I don’t know your cousin, but this will also now live rent free in my head. Also, I am sorry I laughed, but how can I not when you describe his actions with “he proceeded to drink an entire saline bag like a fucking Gatorade”
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u/Caseyisweird 8d ago
You wanna hear the most ironic/inconic part? That's how the nurse explained it to us, because she could not process the fact that he'd actually done that. To be fair it was like 2am and she was just done 😂😂😂
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u/verucka-salt 8d ago
Psych eval STAT
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u/sonia72quebec 8d ago
Some people have some sort of psychosis after an operation. I have seen a patient get up on his bed and put out his catheter. The day after, he was back to his nice, proper self with no memory of what happened.
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u/thepetoctopus 8d ago
I apparently just cried a lot lol
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u/murstl 8d ago
Gosh. Me too. I forgot to breath several times and sobbed the whole two hours under surveillance after surgery.
After another surgery there was a woman getting up and walking around in a delirium and they had to sedate her again. It was wild.
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u/holy_lasagne 8d ago
Yea when I was 7 I almost was trying to bite off a nurse's finger, and almost succeeded. I don't remember a thing.
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u/Broad_Afternoon_8578 8d ago
I had a kidney removed as a young teen and I apparently woke up from anesthesia so confused and in so much pain, I was convinced I was gollum and was being tortured by orcs. I tried to fight the nurses in recovery so they had to use physical restraints.
I have no memory of this at all (I was talking a lot tho so that’s how they knew my psychosis thought process), but my mom told me it passed pretty quickly and the nurses told her it wasn’t uncommon. I wasn’t in restraints for long thankfully but I felt so bad once I heard what happened!
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u/hidden_below 8d ago
Me. I was that somebody. Tried to break out of ICU many times. Like… a lot… detaching anything I could… i don’t remember half of it tbh and feel really bad. (And I am talking psychosis cause the beliefs of evil nurses that wouldn’t let me leave was strong in my head)
I’m sorry for all the nurses that had to deal with my ass
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u/SeaGoat24 8d ago
Psych in most hospitals will tell you to f off unless they're a danger to themselves or others. I mean, there's a very good chance this is just one event of many that together would warrant a psych eval, but in isolation there's no way you could convince them this is urgent.
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u/ElectronicStock3590 8d ago
It doesn’t seem urgent to me. People can be ornery, belligerent, etc. without needing a psychological evaluation for it.
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u/Fluffy-Pomegranate-8 8d ago
I'm not saying that I get it, but I kinda get it. I was hooked up to a monitor and pump that was plugged into the wall, nobody answered the bell so I ended up shitting into a plastic wash bowl
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u/BadGirlCarrie 8d ago
I don’t blame the patient, waiting for a nurse to come while your about to burst is horrible, I’ve been in that position many times, holding bladder while listening to the nurses at their station talking about he said/ she said bullshit I’d do the same dam thing
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u/st0dad 8d ago
How tf long did they have to wait before they were willing to chew their way out to pee? 😅😅
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u/No-Animator-2969 8d ago
I know people are crazy and you can't realistically turn your back on some people for a moment, but wouldn't this reflect more on their caretakers than them?
they're maybe not operating with a full deck of cards at the moment being hospitalized - and they seem to have needed to go bad enough and long enough to chew through an IV tube.
not entirely sure id have shared this one
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u/Historical_Bend_2629 8d ago
This doesn’t seem infuriating, this seems desperate. Maybe infuriating because they weren’t getting proper medical care?
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u/FalseEdge3766 8d ago edited 8d ago
I gotta say, I was hospitalized for 21 days and went though somewhere around 200 IV bags. Depending on the time of day it could be upwards of an hour (or more) before they came to unhook me, and they told me THEY had to do it. So I kind of get it tbh
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u/Starbase13_Cmdr 8d ago
I wonder how long they had to wait?
I was in the hospital recovering from surgery, and had "Post-Operative Urinary Retention". Which means I could not pee on my own - the muscles would NOT work. I had a saline drip going and every time it went empty, they gave me another.
I tried every hour for 3 hours, taking my pump with me... no luck. Things were getting intense, so I paged the nurse and asked for a catheter so I could relieve myself. She said "it will be a while before I can do that".
So, an hour later, I paged her again: "it will be a while before I can do that". This scene repeated itself every hour for 6 hours. She came in to tell me she was handing me off to the next shift and I begged her to help me - I was in agony.
She rolled her eyes, huffed out and came back with the catheter kit. I am convinced she was deliberately rough with the insertion, just to show me why I shouldn't bother nurses. After she drained 700 ml / 23.7 oz out of me, she said "Well, I guess you really had to go. I thought you were just being a big baby..." and walked out.
Moral of the story: find out the details before assuming the patient is an asshole.
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u/Solidknowledge 8d ago
I am convinced she was deliberately rough with the insertion, just to show me why I shouldn't bother nurses
This tracks with just about every nurse I've ever encountered in a hospital setting
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u/GreenyTokes420 8d ago
I have ripped it out of my hand, not realizing how dramatic it would be. People do dumb shit when they are sick and in pain. I have epilepsy.
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u/other_half_of_elvis 8d ago
When I was in high school I woke up in the ICU after a car accident. I was terrified and had no idea why I was there. I made the very logical decision that before, when I wasn't in the hospital, I did not have these tubes in me. So removing them is the obvious first step toward getting the hell out of there. I pulled out both chest tubes that were sewn in, my IV, and my catheter. Surprisingly, I was not free to leave and the bastards tied my arms and legs down.
I tried another escape a few days later when I woke up in new surroundings, a pediatric room instead of ICU. Again I was terrified and wanted out so I tore away the ties on my arms and legs, got out of bed for the first time in a week, and started walking down the hall to get out. Luckily a kind and gentle nurse grabbed me and put me back in my room. But after that I had to have security or a family member with me 24x7.
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u/_pm_ur_tit_pics_pls_ 8d ago
That patient might be a small rodent wearing human skin, that’s crazy. At least they didn’t pee on the floor.
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u/sinnsful 8d ago
Yes I kinda did this before. Sorry fellow nurses. My iv bag was empty and I kept pressing the button for the nurse to come to take it out so I could go pee. It wasn’t on rollers and I didn’t want to carry the physical bag with me because there was no where to set it in the bathroom besides where everyone leaves their urine samples. I didn’t take out the needle but whatever tf was attached to it. Started bleeding profusely. Ran to the front desk area and there my nurse was doing nothing 😭😂 Another nurse took it out for me and helped clean up. Sorry yall.
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u/91NA8 8d ago
Yeah the real issue is that the patient was probably there a few days and realized that it took over an hour just to get someone in to use the bathroom and was sick of the experience.
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u/Jesus_christ_savior I. HATE. SAUERKRAUT! 8d ago
And rightfully so, I swear it is not solely me, waiting in bed for hours on end, only to get up and see the nurses gossiping about an 85 year old man in the next room.
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u/KaldaraFox 8d ago
I was recovering from POEM surgery and was 40 hours into NPO (what should have been about 16 hours) waiting for a test result that had been done an entire day earlier to catch up with my surgeon. I had one kidney gone and another failing (my piss was brown, what little I generated from the saline drip).
I warned staff more than once that my single remaining kidney was probably on the edge of failure and they simply ignored me.
Eventually I removed the port myself and walked out (former phlebotomist - not a tough thing to do right).
Sometimes you have to do what you have to do. I went and got some calories into me (food mushed up enough to pull through a straw) and moved on.
When I told the surgeon about it on my one-month-out status appointment, he apologized on behalf of the hospital and told me I'd done exactly the right thing. "If you don't take care of yourself, no one will," were his exact words.
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u/Fun_Client_6232 8d ago
The patient must have been waiting for too long of a time for someone to do their job and come and help them.
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u/Jesus_christ_savior I. HATE. SAUERKRAUT! 8d ago
Yeah watch OP reply with "irrelevant" for the millionth time instead of doing their job.
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u/ThomasMaker 8d ago
The indignity of possibly pissing/shitting yourself does(depending on how long this person had already waited....) potentially justify this....
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u/LamboDegolio 8d ago
Have you ever waited to be discharged from the hospital? It can take like 10 hours; you’re alone in the room and someone comes in every 2.5 hours: “you’re still here…? Let me go check on that….”
I am a completely sane young professional, and waiting to be discharged had me wanting to chew through my IV.
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u/FreakinSweet86 8d ago
I was in hospital nearly 2 years ago. I was on an IV all throughout the three or four weeks I was in there.
There came a time I was in a room that was pretty small and the bed was a tight fit meaning you'd have to climb over the bed to get to the toilet. Thing was I had to wait for a nurse to unhook me every time I needed a piss since I couldn't wheel the IV around the bed. There were times I was dancing, busting to go. Honestly, I wish I just bit through the bastard IV and have done with it.
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u/Doc-in-a-box 8d ago
I’ve seen/heard of patients pulling out Foley catheters (bladder) with the bulb still inflated, and ripping out their endotracheal tube while dependent on a ventilator, but this one is a new one for me